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Political Discussions :: RE: The difference between Democracts and Republicans

Author: thought-showers
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:14 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 16

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This president was handed an economic disaster, thanks to the guy you voted for twice; your guy passes off a shit sandwich to this president and now you want to complain about the taste of this shit sandwich?

Hey Yeag, I have said many times that Bush and congress WAY overspent. There is no doubt about that. I just don't happen to think that they way to dispose of a [crap] sandwich is to make a [crap] sandwich 5 million times bigger. "Wow, this is a terrible mess! Let's mess it up even more!" doesn't sound very sensible, now does it?

Political Discussions :: RE: The difference between Democracts and Republicans

Author: Yeager
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:34 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 16

thought-showers, you ever hear of a fella name of Paul Krugman? I know, I know, he doesn't come up much on Rush or Sean's shows, but I'm betting you've heard of him anyway but here's the deal; this Krugman guy won a Nobel Prize in economics and I know that actually would count against him in Republican circles but most of the rest of the country takes him seriously but according to Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman, the stimulus bill which helped create a chunk of this deficit was not big enough, we should have spent more money. So that means that Krugman believes, as did most economists, that preventing the economy from collapsing was more important than anything.

This president was handed an economic disaster, thanks to the guy you voted for twice; your guy passes off a shit sandwich to this president and now you want to complain about the taste of this shit sandwich?

Yes, yearly deficits are at record levels but that is thanks to Republicans, give this president a few years for his economic policies to take effect and just remember this, go back and read some of the things Republicans assured us of after the 1993 budget was passed, they were wrong then and will be wrong now.

For real comparisons thought-showers, just compare where the economy and the yearly deficit was when President Clinton left office, and where it was when George W Disaster left office.

Political Discussions :: RE: Limbaugh on Obama's "elitism."

Author: Yeager
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:20 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 73

As usual, you are wrong, you will do it again, it will 'happen from you' simply because guys like you cannot help themselves, plus, like I said, you really, really suck at this so you don't seem to understand when you have crossed a line. You don't even seem to understand any lines exist.

But guess what? When you do it again, when you post something offensive, when you say something idiotic, when you try and make another idiotic point and once again cross this line, guess who will be there to point it out for you, and seemingly most everybody else here? So you have that to look forward to.

Political Discussions :: RE: Heath Care Summit: Any Compromise?

Author: thought-showers
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:01 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 68

There are only two possibilities based on this quote from Obama's speech in Philadelphia:

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"The insurance companies continue to ration health care based on who's sick, who's healthy," Obama said. "These insurance companies have made a calculation."

Possibility #1: He really doesn't understand what insurance is. Like, really doesn't understand. Yes, they do make a calculation. That's exactly what they do. But he's supposed to be this kinda smart guy, and while it's possible that he simply doesn't have a single person in his lexicon who could explain this very basic principal to him, I'm thinking it's more like Possibility #2: He things we don't understand what insurance is. That might have been a safe bet except people seem to have wised up as his claims get more and more outlandish. Like this:

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The president argued that insurers figure that they can afford to price out some customers, because "there's so little competition" in the market that they can keep raising premiums on the customers they have left without fear of them dropping plans in large numbers.

Do they not teach Economics 101 at Harvard?

Implosion.

Movies and Television :: RE: Anyone watch the Oscars?

Author: thought-showers
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:26 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 2

When I was a kid I used to absolutely love it! I had generally seen most of the movies and I just loved the glamor of it. But now it's just obnoxious. I don't mean to go all Andy Rooney, but I so rarely even go see these crappy movies anymore.

Political Discussions :: RE: Governing America, GOP Style

Author: JWD
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:08 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 1

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Political Discussions :: RE: Heath Care Summit: Any Compromise?

Author: JWD
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:07 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 68

Mongo_Slade wrote:

JWD said:

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I would pray that you're right...but I doubt it. If Roe Vs Wade was overturned it wouldn't make abortions illegal; it would just kick it back to the states. Then each state would determine to make it legal or illegal.

How can we reduce the number of abortions? Perhaps having the government strongly supporting adoptions? Maybe if the government would pay for the pre-natal care for any woman who decides she wants to give up her child for adoption and offer substantial tax credits for any couple that adopts a child that would help.

But money and tax credits won't soften the heart or instill morality.

Could you imagine the money that would be saved if the Government actually supported adoptions? We have parents in this country so desperate to have a child they pay a ton of cash to adopt one from overseas. I firmly believe that we would cut down on the amount of kids getting into trouble and would have a more educated public school system.....What the hell am I talking about? Your ideas make way too much sense for the Government.
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Political Discussions :: Governing America, GOP Style

Author: dcwash
Subject: Governing America, GOP Style
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:06 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 1

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Movies and Television :: RE: Anyone watch the Oscars?

Author: Mongo_Slade
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:38 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 2

I watched about ten minutes and then fell asleep. Was this show EVER any good?
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Political Discussions :: RE: Heath Care Summit: Any Compromise?

Author: Mongo_Slade
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:34 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 68

JWD said:

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Political Discussions :: RE: This is so tired.

Author: Mongo_Slade
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:21 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 7

I wish I had an answer. I can't understand why anyone would embrace ignorance, immorality, and criminality as a prefered lifestyle.
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Political Discussions :: RE: Heath Care Summit: Any Compromise?

Author: JWD
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:14 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 68

truthseeker wrote:

JWD wrote:

When it comes to National Security...No...

Pro Choice. If it ain't happening in my family,it's none of my business. If it does involve my family I'm Pro-Life. That being said I do not want my tax dollars funding abortions.

Thanks for the answers. It better helps me understand your thinking and perspective on some of these things.

I consider myself pro-choice too, but not passionately so. What I mean by that is if Roe v. Wade was overturned tomorrow, I would not be up in arms over that.

But abortion is an issue, where I do not have 100% confidence that I know what is morally correct. And on an issue like this, what the vast majority of people think is right, is not all that significant to me.

Historically what we ultimately come to believe is correct, is unpopular at the time our laws first recognize that morally correct thing.

This is one reason I am hesitant to fully adopt your 70% type of rule.

Fair enough. I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to Roe vs Wade. I think if it was overturned we wouldn't see abortion used as birth control. That and partial birth abortions make me sick. But it's a personal choice so it is what it is.
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Political Discussions :: RE: This is so tired.

Author: JWD
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:45 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 7

dcwash wrote:

JWD.....it just breaks your heart....

Yes it does DC. It's a waste. The sad thing is,we saw many men that were in their 30's flashing gangs signs and saggin inside our church. I asked a guy that was at least 35 to try to calm down the younger men that were with him out of respect for God and the grieving family. I was told to "Step off" and mind my own business or risk ending up like the victim.

I didn't step off. I'm not a bible thumping type of man, but my faith is strong enough to honestly say I don't fear death. I helped him find his way out our church. The police dealt with him accordingly and scolded me about my own safety. Not the first time I've heard that.

I love the community we live in. When I was in the service I lived in some interesting "Post" towns. They were cool,but IMO nothing beats big city neighborhoods. The drawbacks are dealing with knuckleheads that choose to deal,kill and continue to pro create.

It's a never ending cycle and that's where I draw a blank on how it can be solved. I'm 47. I grew up in Detroit. I see the same thing going on now that I did back when I was a teen. The huge difference is more kids are stone cold killers.They have no regard for humane life. Where did that come from? I mean we had shootings growing up. My own brother was killed at 14 on our front porch back in Detroit. But is was not as prevalent as it is today. Young kids are getting killed for nothing.

I work with kids that have anywhere between 3 to 6 different baby mommas. Most of them are 15 to 16 years old and uneducated by choice. By that I mean,they chose to hustler vs going to school. What do we do? It's a sad state for the babies coming into this world that already have a blueprint for failure due to lack of love and direction from the kids that conceived them. It really pisses me off to see kids so smart,ruin their lives. Sorry for the rant.
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Political Discussions :: RE: Limbaugh on Obama's "elitism."

Author: JWD
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:41 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 73

My bad ladies and gentlemen(Excluding Yeager). I helped turn this thread into..................

Won't happen again. At least from me.
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Political Discussions :: RE: Heath Care Summit: Any Compromise?

Author: Yeager
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:25 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 68

Oh, one last point, the truth is, Democrats, for years, have been in favor of or at least not opposed to limiting and restricting federal funds for abortions. Anyone ever heard of the 'Hyde Amendment?' Democrats are now in control of everything but I don't hear a single Democrat trying to repeal the Hyde Amendment. Why is that? If these legislators really are 'pro-choice' then why aren't they in favor of a choice for everyone, even if one doesn't have the means?